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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 18:40:37 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu
Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu
Precedence: Bulk
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #401
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Sun, 10 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 401
Today's Topics:
9k6 mods for IC-471
ANS-099 BULLETINS
Beg To Differ, Tnx
Delivery Failure Report
Ham radios on planes - De
HELP! The FCC will not is
IPS Daily Report - 10 April 94
online repeater directory
We wish you best 73's
WWV/H's Antennas
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 23:52:54 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wb6w@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: 9k6 mods for IC-471
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
...I've modified my Icon 271E for 9600 (also an MFJ TNC/modem). As I
recall the signal injection point I used was the wiper of the audio
level pot leading to the varactor. There is a blocking cap on this line
already. I fed my sig thru a non-polarized 1mmf cap and a 1K resistor.
The "conventional wisdom" scheme is to connect through a cap & 10K resistor
to the varactor - but this does not seem to work.
By the by - the circuit in this area is the same in several Icom radios,
the IC-290 and IC-490 being among them.
73 de Glenn wb6w@netcom.com
------------------------------
Date: 10 Apr 94 22:25:51 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ANS-099 BULLETINS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-099.01
W5RRR/JSC ARC LANDLINE BBS
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 099.01 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD APRIL 9, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-099.01
New Landline BBS Provides STS-59 SAREX Information
The Johnson Space Center Amateur Radio Club has set up a telephone computer
bulletin board (BBS). The purpose of the BBS is to provide a source of
current Space Shuttle mission Keplerian Elements.
There are limited number of BBS files available for downloading. Among the
current files are:
o Current and old element sets for the mission in progress
o Current mission information
o Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment (SAREX) information
o Recent Space Shuttle Mission Schedules and Manifests
o Astronaut/Cosmonaut Ham List
o Current JSC Amateur Radio Club Newsletter
We ask that no files be uploaded to the BBS. The telephone number is
(713) 244-5625. Our modem can handle all bauds up to and including 9600
baud. The parameters are N-8-1.
The BBS is currently running in ProComm HOST mode, so the logon is very
simple and downloading is easy. After logging in, you will see the
Welcome Screen describing the BBS. Also, the Welcome Screen contains the
current and latest element set number (e.g., JSC008) loaded on the BBS.
Check it against your last set so you won't waste your time duplicating a
set you already have. Press ENTER to bring up the second page containing
the current Space Shuttle Keplerian Element Set. If you have a file cap-
ture or screen capture function in your communications software, then you
should use it for this page. That way, you won't have to go through the
file download process if all you wanted was the latest element set. If
you have any comments for the Club or BBS sysop, leave a message and we
will respond.
[The AMSAT News Service would like to thank Dale Martin (KG5U), KG5U @
KA5KTH.#setx.tx.usa.na, Secretary of the Johnson Space Center ARC
Houston, Texas (W5RRR)]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-099.02
FUJI AWARD PROGRAM DETAILS
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 099.02 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD APRIL 9, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-099.02
JJ1WTK Provides Information About "FUJI" Award
Amateur Satellite "Fuji", SWL Amateur Satellite "Fuji" applicants are
required to make contacts with 10 different amateur stations through the
amateur radio satellite "Fuji" (only contacts in CW or SSB mode), and
obtain the QSL cards from those stations. This award applies for both
FO-12 (JAS-1) which was launched at 20:45 UTC in 12-AUG-1986 and JAS-1B
which was launched on 07-FEB-1990. Any contact thru FO-12 or FO-20 is good
for the "Fuji Award" application. A fee of 8 IRCs or US $4 will be charged
per award. An additional 2 IRCs will be charged for air mail delivery
regardless of the number of the awards claimed. If QSL cards are submitted,
sufficient funds for return postage will also be required. All corres-
pondences should be sent to:
Japan Amateur Radio League - Award Desk,
1-14-2 Sugamo, Toshima, Tokyo 170, Japan
[The AMSAT News Service would like to thank Kazu Sakamoto (JJ1WTK) for this
bulletin item. JJ1WTK can be reached at his e-mail address of
qga02014@niftyserve.or.jp]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-099.03
POSAT-1 VOICE CONTACTS
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 099.03 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD APRIL 9, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-099.03
CT1ERC Reports POSAT-1 Voice Contacts Made
CT1ERC reports that a special event amateur satellite station, CU2APO, was
setup on the island of San Miguel in the AZORES for a technical exhibition
to a youth grounp using POSAT-1. This demonstration was arranged by the
PoSAT Consortium in which they agree to switch the satellite to operate on
the amateur frequencies and it was configured as a FM transponder for a
single pass to allow voice contacts between this island in the middle of
the Atlantic ocean and the continent. Everything was arranged overnight
and on short notice so unfotunately there was not enough time to send out
notices of this event for other radio amateurs to participate. However,
CT1ERC wishes to pass allong his report of the this first time voice
contact on POSAT-1.
"The uplink frequency was 145.975 MHz and the downlink frequency was
435.275 MHz which by coincidence is a frequency with alot of strong QRM at
CT1ERC's QTH. At 12:28 UTC 24-FEB-1994, with the satellite heading from
North, the mutual window between CT1ERC's station (located in the extreme
North of Portugal) and CU2APO (located in the extreme West, half way to N.
America) opened and he exchanged a QSO with Pedro Carvalho (CT1DBS). The
reports were both S59 but only for short periods, due to the strong bursts
of QRM which made communication very difficult. One minute later there
appeared Miguel Gomes (CT1EVH) operating the club station CS1APO located in
Lisbon and Artur Gomes (CT1DIA) located in Faro (extreme South of Por-
tugal). The QRM affected all stations except CT1DIA who have copy all of
us during the whole pass with reports between S57 and S59. Sometimes
during the pass two Spanish stations, apparently mobile, in a QSO on the
VHF band were completly unaware that they were using a satellite uplink and
reaching the downlink with S55 to S57."
CT1ERC wants to thank to the the Consortium for made the satellite avail-
able for 10 minutes and to Pedro, CT1DBS, for all his efforts and hours
spent in convencing the POSAT Consortium to allow this demonstation to
happen.
[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank Jose Carlos (CT1ERC) for
this bulletin item.]
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-099.04
AO-13 OPS NET SCHEDULE
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 099.04 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD APRIL 9, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-099.04
Current AMSAT Operations Net Schedule For AO-13
AMSAT Operations Nets are planned for the following times. Mode-B Nets
are conducted on AO-13 on a downlink frequency of 145.950 MHz. If, at
the start of the OPS Net, the frequency of 145.950 MHz is being used
for a QSO, OPS Net enthusiasts are asked to move to the alternate
frequency of 145.955 MHz.
Date UTC Mode Phs NCS Alt NCS
18-Apr-94 0100 B 188 W5IU WA5ZIB
23-Apr-94 1800 B 180 VE2LVC W9ODI
30-Apr-94 2130 B 176 W9ODI VE2LVC
09-May-94 0000 B 175 W5IU WA5ZIB
14-May-94 1700 B 167 WA5ZIB W5IU
21-May-94 2130 B 185 VE2LVC W9ODI
Any stations with information on current events would be most welcomed.
Also, those interested in discussing technical issues or who have
questions about any particular aspect of OSCAR statellite operations,
are encouraged to join the OPS Nets. If neither of the Net Control
Stations show up, any participant is invited to act as the NCS.
Slow Scanners are invited to join the SSTV sessions on AO-13. The freq-
uency is 145.955 MHz. The net meets at 45 minutes before Mode S, and on
Mode B following Mode S on Saturdays and Sundays. Join those sessions or
convey your wishes for other SSTV skeds to wb6llo@amsat.org, and he will
coordinate your efforts.
/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-099.05
WEEKLY OSCAR STATUS REPORTS
HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 099.05 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD APRIL 9, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-099.05
Weekly OSCAR Status Reports: 09-APR-94
AO-13: Current Transponder Operating Schedule:
M QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1994 Apr 07-Jul 11
Mode-B : MA 0 to MA 170 |
Mode-BS : MA 170 to MA 218 |
Mode-S : MA 218 to MA 220 |<- S beacon only
Mode-S : MA 220 to MA 230 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-BS : MA 230 to MA 250 | Blon/Blat 230/-5
Mode-B : MA 250 to MA 256 |
Omnis : MA 250 to MA 120 | Move to attitude 180/0, Jul 11
[G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR]
FO-20: The following is the current schedule for transponder operations:
ANALOG MODE:
20-Apr-94 7:35 -to- 27-Apr-94 7:55 UTC
11-May-94 6:54 -to- 18-May-94 7:20 UTC
Digital mode: Unless otherwise noted above.
[Kazu Sakamoto (JJ1WTK) qga02014@niftyserve.or.jp]
AO-27: DL6AAU reports that he has hear some "big" signals from AO-27
with a indoor groundplane antenna without preamp. He receives signals S56
to S59 from stations on Buffin Island, which for DL6AAU, is considered a DX
contact. DL6AAU notes that AO-27 really better signal than its famous
"cousin" AO-21. [DL6UAA]
AO-21: A new digital voice message started to transmit this week on AO-21
on the occasion of the AMSAT-OE meeting. The actual schedule is as
follows:
RUDAK-II Schedule: (Downlink 145.987 MHz, Uplink 435.016 MHz)
min/10 Beacon Mode
0..6 FM Repeater
7 Digital Audio
8..9 AFSK TLM
The following is the message that is broadcasted on AO-21 during the packet
beacon downlink: "++ Hi, this is the RUDAK-II experiment on AMSAT OSCAR 21
++ On occasion of the first AMSAT-OE meeting we send greetings to HAM's &
all over the world. We wish you to have PEACEFUL contacts via amateur
radio!" Reports are welcome to:
HTL
Amateur Radio Group
Anichstr. 46
A-6020 Innsbruck
Austria
[LW2DTZ]
KO-23: Working well and has a new pair of images. [WH6I]
KO-25: Also working well. [WH6I]
IO-26: Working well on the secondary frequency as advertised. [WH6I]
AO-16: Working well. [WH6I]
LO-19: Also working well. [WH6I]
The AMSAT NEWS Service (ANS) is looking for volunteers to contribute weekly
OSCAR status reports. If you have a favorite OSCAR which you work on a
regular basis and would like to contribute to this bulletin, please send
your observations to WD0HHU at his CompuServe address of 70524,2272, on
INTERNET at wd0hhu@amsat.org, or to his local packet BBS in the Denver, CO
area, WD0HHU @ W0LJF.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM. Also, if you find that the current
set of orbital elements are not generating the correct AOS/LOS times at
your QTH, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. The information you
provide will be of value to all OSCAR enthusiasts.
/EX
------------------------------
Date: 10 Apr 94 23:57:11 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Beg To Differ, Tnx
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
According to Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup:
> Subject: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET [(XXXX) !!! - CENSORED]
> To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>
> > >>I think that is the main problem. Cross-posting such lengthy articles is
> > >>a pure waste of bandwidth.
> gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com (Gilbert Baron) writes:
> > >
> > >Actually, a properly cross-posted article does not use any more bandwidth
> > >than an article posted to only one newsgroup. That is why crossposting
> > >is different from posting many times.
It occurs to me that a particular Newsgroup should pertain to a specific topic.
Not a jumble of as many things as can be stuffed into it. That is the obvious
intention of having so MANY different, and exciting newgroups to choose from.
Although "Cross Posting" as you call it, may not incur additional "bandwidth"
in posting the original article, it certainly does increase the size of each
newsgroups dumped message. Since I am using UUCP which costs me .10 Cents
a minute to retrieve my newsgroups, it's even more annoying to find that I'm
getting mutlipule copies of material I am not even remotely interested in
being placed along-side info that I am very much interested in, simply because
it is remotely connected to Ham-Radio. I would not fault the newgroups
themselves as much as I would the person or group that was doing the posting.
That sorta shoots the who Idea of having so MANY newsgroups in the foot
doesn't it?
If I subscribe to several different newsgroups all pertaining to HAM-RADIO
in General, I don't expect to see the same posting on each newsgroup. If there
were a few General Coverage Newsgroups I might expect it, but not on different
HAM-RADIO areas, like "space", or "digital", etc... I don't expect to see
DX Info in either of them. In actuality I would be annoyed by finding
DX news in a Ham-Digital newsgroup.
It's seems to me that it does cause an increase in what it costs to operate
my UUCP system, if someone is posting multipule copies of news to several
individual newsgroups which I subscribe to. And I am only on such operator.
I am sure there are hundreds, or thousands just like me all around the world.
> > Please explain why crossposting does not use more bandwidth. Inquiring minds
> > would like to know. 10k x 2 lists is 20k of data. How can that not be a
> > waste. It lets more people see it but many people see it more than once and
> > that is an obvious waste of bandwidth. Think about it for a minute.
>
> I have suggested in the past that FAQ posters post the entire message in
> rec.radio.info and pointers to it in all the other newsgroups, but they
> insist on doing it this way. And to be fair to them, while I disagree
> with them, it doesn't take extra bandwidth to send the files, just to
> store them. Shortening up the expire time a little takes care of it at my
> site.
>
>
> Robert Smits There is *no* idiotproof filter.
> VE7EMD Idiots are proof against anything!
> Ladysmith B.C. - Richard Chycoski, VE7CVS
> e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Ah, but it DOES take extra bandwidth to send them to my system from the
news-server. It takes my system extra time, and cost to download the
same FAQ, or whatever, over a UUCP connection. Storage? I can dump
the message once it's here, but I can't stop it on it's way if I don't
know its coming down the line.
I am just a small operator of a UUCP to TCP/IP Lan. So if you sent a 1mg
file to more than one newsgroup I subscribe to, you are seriously cutting
into my budget.
Seems to me that common sense would dictate that you would only forward
such material to one newsgroup, and store the FAQ at a well known
'anonymous' access site for folks to pick up at will.
Just my two cents worth after watching this message get larger, and longer.
--
---------- ----------
Tim R. Havens (WX2L) Internet: timh@wx2l.sccsi.com
TSPAN - Cumberland, Cnty. AmprNet: wx2l@wx2l.ampr.org
Via US Mail - UUCP: nuchat!wx2l!timh
324 Lebanon Rd., Millville,NJ 08302, USA Phone: (609) 451-7773
---------- ----------
------------------------------
Date: 10 Apr 94 23:25:29 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Delivery Failure Report
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
From: NAME: Mail Postmaster
FUNC:
TEL: <POSTMASTER AT A1 AT ANDV02>
To: net%"Info-Hams@UCSD.EDU"@RCVAX@MRGATE
ALL-IN-1 was unable to deliver your message dated to
ADAMS,SE - no such ALL-IN-1 account
on node ANDV02
The subject of the message was :
Info-Hams Digest V94 #400
------------------------------
Date: 9 Apr 94 23:35:00 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!matrix!zach.rutledge@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Ham radios on planes - De
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
W> .@SUBJECT:Ham radios on planes - Definitive answ N
> .@FROM :William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM N
> .@MSGID :<199404061427.HAA15953@ucsd.edu> N
> From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Ham radios on planes - Definitive answ
> Date: 6 Apr 94 14:02:25 GMT
> Message-ID: <199404061427.HAA15953@ucsd.edu>
W> it's more than that. the cell radio system doesn't like having users
> accessing more than 1 cell at a time (ideally). when you are up in the plane,
> you are able to hit hundreds at the same time. This gives the cell system a
> hernia since it's not set up for such a thing -- i would think the cell radio
1. You would think that the first cell site to pick up your signal would
carry it on as far as it could, right? I do see how reaching many at once
would pose a problem, but, what about 2. areas where you're in your car and
you're in an area where two cells overlap? That does happen, especially here
in Alabama where the hills are just large enough to wreak havoc on anything
over 400Mhz... But, back to the second part: How would cell phones or sites
know which site would carry the phone? I don't see how both would as this
would interject other problems which I don't want to get into. The answer to
the problem lies in that second part. The only difference in two overlapping
on the road and 50+ overlapping in the air is that that one cell that picks
your signal up can carry it a lot longer distance... I see how this could
cause other problems, though. What about a preson on another cell 20 miles
away, who's on the same frequency? You're up high enough to reach it, and it
you, so...?
W> if you can't be out of touch for even a couple of hours, why are you even
> getting on a plane in the first place?
You have a point there!
Zach!
---
. SPEED 1.40 [NR] . Alzheimers is very..ah...uh.....uh.....um
------------------------------
Date: 11 Apr 1994 01:23:42 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec3!jlw3@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HELP! The FCC will not is
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Bob Citkowski (tardis@atd.mke.ab.com) wrote:
:ok let's quit sobbing and askwhenthe vec'sand ve sent in the paperwork for your
:ticket. sometime it gets screwedup andtakes longer to get sent to the fcc. i'd
:check with the ve that sponsored your group before you do a chicken little with
:your congressman. heck, for all we know you got it in the mail today.go through
:the correct channels before you nuke the fcc.
You had long lines so I shortened a couple. But, so what *if*, as in my case,
the csce was 23 dec, mailed from vec on 29 dec and still heard nothing? Sick
the representative on the fcc now? Please, pretty please????
--jesse
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 23:11:47 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!ifi.uio.no!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!news.ci.com.au!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 10 April 94
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 10/2330Z APRIL 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 10 APRIL AND FORECAST UP TO 13 APRIL
IPS Warning 10 was issued on 31 March and is current
for intyerval April 3-14 (coronal hole).
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: very low
Flares: none.
Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 075/013
1B. SOLAR FORECAST
11 April 12 April 13 April
Activity Very low Very low Very low
Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 075/013
1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: unsettled to active, with one minor
storm period
Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 9 April
Learmonth 23 3334 5443
Fredericksburg 25 39
Planetary 30 45
Observed Kp for 9 April: 6556 5444
2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
DATE Ap CONDITIONS
11 Apr 25 Active.
12 Apr 25 Active.
13 Apr 25 Active.
2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
LATITUDE BAND
DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
10 Apr normal fair fair-poor
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
LATITUDE BAND
DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
11 Apr fair poor poor
12 Apr fair poor poor
13 Apr fair poor poor
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Fair-Poor HF comms quality expected at times over next three days.
Conditions at high lats are expected to remain degraded
until April 14.
-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values
Observed T index for 10 April: 9
Predicted Monthly T Index for April is 40.
4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE T-index MUFs
11 Apr 0 15 to 20% below predicted monthly values.
12 Apr 20 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values.
13 Apr 20 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values.
4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Fair-Poor HF comms conditions expected until April 13, especially
during local night. Depressions of 20-30% observed at Hobart.
Strong sporadic E layer is expected at times today.
--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |PO Box 5606
RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |AUSTRALIA
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Date: 10 Apr 94 20:21:07
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: online repeater directory
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Now that the repeater project is back on track (I hope), I am asking
for volunteer assistance in adding to this database. Anyone willing?
--
Medical Image Processing Group | Conway Yee, N2JWQ
411 Blockley Hall | EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu
418 Service Drive | VOICE : 1 (215) 662-6780
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA) | FAX : 1 (215) 898-9145
------------------------------
Date: 9 Apr 94 19:56:07 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!rtp.vnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!connected.com!beauty!rwing!eskimo!wrt@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: We wish you best 73's
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2o42ok$8j1@oak.oakland.edu>,
prvalko <prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu> wrote:
>
>hahahahaha
>
>Heard on the repeater, "You are full scale but really noisy."
>
>=paul= wb8zjl
>
What's so odd about that? Are you confusing full scale with full
quieting? I've heard plenty of S9+ signals that were so noisy I could
hardly copy....
W7LZP
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Date: 9 Apr 94 19:49:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!rtp.vnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!connected.com!beauty!rwing!eskimo!wrt@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: WWV/H's Antennas
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <Cny5tz.4A3@news.hawaii.edu>,
Jeffrey Herman <jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> wrote:
>Someone was kind enought to provide a copy of the (old) NBS information
>pamphlet. It was very interesting, but I found the following a bit
>suprising:
>
>
>> 1b. Antennas and Modulation
>> The broadcasts on 5, 10, and 15 MHz from WWVH are from phased
>>vertical half-wave dipole arrays. They are designed and oriented
>>to radiate a cardioid pattern directing maximum gain in a westerly
>>direction. The 2.5 MHz antenna at WWVH and all antennas at WWV are
>>half-wave dipoles that radiate omnidirectional patterns.
>
>
>For such an an elaborate installation and because of the vital service
>they provide I would have expected NBS to use antennas more
sophisticated
>than dipoles; there certainly are antennas with more gain which would
>give the same radiation patterns.
>
>Gary? Al?
>
>Jeff NH6IL
>
I think you are forgetting WWV's mission: they are not out to work DX,
they are trying to provide the maximum coverage to the maximum number of
people. For this, a half-wave vertical dipole is an excellent antenna.
It has a mix of high and low angle radiation and everything in between.
It's the same reason you wouldn't use a beam while conducting a local
net - you need to talk to everybody. A certain amount of phasing has
been used probably to overcome their location at the foot of the
Rockies (just a guess).
Incidentally, there is no such thing as an "antenna with more gain which
would give the same radiation pattern". Can't happen. Antenna gain is
created by intentionally distorting the radiation pattern and/or angle
in the favored direction. You can't get something for nothing.
Bill, W7LZP
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